{Last Boss} {Impossible to guage!}

[Malacite]

I'm not going to spoil anything. Suffice to say this fight is BITCHING HARD compared to the rest of ToAU!

Mission 44 is NUTS. Ugh, my PT tried at least 4 times and every time we ended up dying to the "small guy" because he's freaking invincible...

If only our RDM had chainspell ready, but it was used on an earlier run in order to chainspell stun. unfortunately as he was activating it the BLM died ><


Has anyone managed to beat this yet?

[Legal Fish]

Re: {Last Boss} {Impossible to guage!}

SC+MB. Freeze II MB takes about 20-30% off the "little" guy's HP.

[Feba]

Re: {Last Boss} {Impossible to guage!}

Someone post a video already.

[Necropolis]

Re: {Last Boss} {Impossible to guage!}

Trying out this spoiler tag and see if I can get it to work

Our party setup was Pld/nin, Blu/thf, War/nin, Rdm/whm, Smn/whm, Whm/blm (me)

First two forms of the smaller guy are easy, the third form is still weak but immune to physical damage. Our first attemp the rdm was cor, so only magic damage was the blu, smn and myself as whm. Banish3 and Banishga2 are surprising powerful, I noticed light weather was in effect. But I was doing 300+ with some in the 500s for damage.

Hate was a slight issue the second attempt, we ended up just dying and restarting. A little caution on trying to set hate on the pld before all out nuking, and he was dead 10 minutes after entering. Leaving us 30 minutes to kill the boss.

We had blown 2 hours on first attempt and wiped at 2% on alexander, so we had no 2hr except the plds and wars, neither of which was used.

First form of alexander was easy, I recovered MP during this form with the smn and rdm covering the little healing that was needed. On the second form, he can be a bitch! Covering about 5% of his hp every few seconds and doing considerable damage to melees in the process. Spams Diaga3, Banishga3, and Banish4. Support needs to be quick on the erases of dia on the pld. He can terror the tank. Has a directional aoe move, Can hit whoever has hate and does damage in a radius around that player (melee stay the hell away from your mages).

Alexander doesn't move at all, so mages can stand right on max range away from the side of the tank and not get hit by most effects. He 2hrs at 50% and again near death, but at a distance of 18.5 I wasn't hit by it. The Blu after the first attempt at him, decided to sub thf and SATA'd a cannonball on the pld from like 20 feet away, then just stood behind alexander and kept Canonballing it doing very impressive number. Far outparsed the war in the end. Smn was doing decent damage with normal blood pacts (astral flow however did nearly nothing to him in first attempt)

As long as you can maintain hp and mp leveling the fight isn't hard. He does have some sort of dispel move I only saw him use once, occasionally terros (less than fafnir or nidhogg). Appart from that I don't think there's much more to it. Just wittle hp down as fast as you can, becaue he'll spam a cure move for 800-1200 hp every minute or so. You can wipe and he won't recover HP while not engaged. Not sure if he aggros if you raise close to him, but tractor does work. Noe exp loss, so everyone needs to come equipped with RR earring.

On the attempt we one, the war died once to the blu (ate a 1100 Eyes on Me), then died twice over all to Alexander. Oh, and he can be paralyzed, we couldn't silence him, but not to say it can't be done. ES paralyze from whm worked, rdm could do just fine. When he cures himself, all enfeebles wipe, so it's a constant process.

Umm...5 am, all I can think of, best of luck you ya.


Edit: He can toggle between physical or magical immunity. Though I didn't really notice them up for long periods of time or that 1 was always up like promathia. Just something he can do at random. Perhaps put in play to avoid brd zerging him or manaburning him. Don't know if it's conditional.

[Malacite]

Re: {Last Boss} {Impossible to guage!}

It's not the 'Big guy' we have trouble with (never even got to him -,-) it's the little guy.


Where's this vid Feba?

[Necropolis]

Re: {Last Boss} {Impossible to guage!}

How are you doing on the first two forms of the "small guy", are you wiping to just the 3rd form?

Also, what's your party setup? I really think the key to our party setup was the pld/nin tank and the blu/thf. If the pld can hold hate of nuking mages (holy, JAs, SATA cannonball, High Breath Mantle) you shouldn't have too much trouble. We actually had an easier time with him when our only magic was whm, smn, and blu.

The Blu was doing ok with head butt stunning Eyes On Me, and could tank alright for the majority. I was do fair damage with whm banishing, in fact pulled hate a lot the second and third attempts. If you're using a pld, cover should help if you got enough magic damage to burn him down fast. I didn't try, but could the blm land burn on him? That could help as well.

Umm, if I think of something else, I'll try to add here. Good luck!

[Gobo]

Re: {Last Boss} {Impossible to guage!}

The small guys immunity isn't automatically physical, its the type of damage that dealt the most damage in the first 2 forms. So if you "arrowburn" his first 2 lives, he will be Ranged attack immune in his 3rd, do most damage with Melee->physical immune on 3rd form, same with dealing the most damage with magic. So plan accordingly and it won't be as hard.

[Legal Fish]

Re: {Last Boss} {Impossible to guage!}

Some tips:

-Eyes on Me is very easy to stun. You can pretty much prevent it ever going off with 2 stunners.

-The whole gimmick is said above, he becomes immune based on what you kill him with. A BLM + Sleeper can easily solo the final form. My a MB'd Freeze II pretty much took off 50%.

-For the big boss, you dont' have to stand in melee range.

-the WS he spams is physical. It can missed and is effected by items like Earth Staff

-It's very easy to avoid the big guy's 2hr with distance.

-it's an endurance fight.

-Stun helps.

[Aksannyi]

Re: {Last Boss} {Impossible to guage!}

Do we get to nuke Shantotto?

I'm kidding by the way, I'd rather not be spoiled.

[Kuro]

Re: {Last Boss} {Impossible to guage!}

2% TWO FREAKING %!

ARGH I hate this guy. we first tried with COR BLM DRK WAR PLD WAR and kept dying on the first guy's 2'nd and third forms.

Tried it again with a drk ad a blm, got throiugh to alexander and got ownd at like 80%

Now try 3. SAM PLD BLMx2 RDM WHM

This worked wonderfully. not a single death untill thrst 2hr! we raised up, he was at 50% with 6 min on the cloick we decided full 2hr across the spread was in order.

We got him to 2%, and for the first time in ages the bastard heals! We get him to 4% and again, bastard heals up to something like 8%!

I'm really sick of this guy allready, give me Promanthia anyday -.-

This is what happens when people bitch about ToAU being shit because of easy fights and them spending all their time on kick ass cutscenes, well thanks a bunch. Enjoy spending about 300k in reraise items fighting this bugger (And the fight before this is also a lot of fun, 1/2 though with some fluke!)

I JUST had an idea!

Gallant roll! with the PLD you absolutly have to use, thats a crap load of damage reflected. As sam i was doing about 50's and 150 WS's, reflecting like 20% damage (a low-avarge roll with PLD) thats reflecting 20% of his fast spammage of physical WS hits...

[Malacite]

Re: {Last Boss} {Impossible to guage!}

Yeah I can't beat this mother either...

SAM/RNG will destroy BLU on the 3rd form. Spamming Sidewinder takes out so much of his HP! ^^b


I just can't kill Alex though. Ugh I'm SICK of him. 8 tries now, not 1 win. Starting to wonder if Kraken DRK is the only way to beat him...


Aslo, according to wiki his Divine Sacrament attack is physical... so what about a DRK with Dread Spikes ? >. > Not a bad idea with gallants roll btw. That'd be awesome if that's the key to winning... finally put that stupid roll to use.

[tuggler]

Re: {Last Boss} {Impossible to guage!}

Just beat this 1/1 . We went PLD/WAR, BLM, BRD, BLU, WHM, SAM. We pulled the BLU to the entrance and on his first two forms we only meleed, no nukes at all, then on his third form, I tanked while the BLM used nuke/sleep method. BLU is very handy on all forms to head butt his Eyes On Me. On Alexander, I tanked near the entrance at full Voke distance using Earth Staff, DD's went in and mages stood out of range of his damage. WHM kept me alive while I spammed everything to keep hate. We wiped at 50%, reraised then went again and just managed it with about 3 mins to spare.

It's a class fight, it has to be said!

[Kuro]

Re: {Last Boss} {Impossible to guage!}

I ... Hate ... You!

[Feba]

Re: {Last Boss} {Impossible to guage!}

Do none of you have fraps?

[Malevolent]

Re: {Last Boss} {Impossible to guage!}

They prolly do but its like the heat of the moment...you bring a condom with you but do you put it on....